Iran Update

Update: 4:51pm

Dear Rep. Pete Hoekstra: Please don’t insult the Iranian people with your tweets:

“Iranian twitter activity similar to what we did in House last year when Republicans were shut down in the House.”

Nearly a million people showed up in the Imam Khomeini Square of Tehran yesterday in support of the civil war in Iran. Here’s a photo essay of this historic event. As I said in my original blog post, this is history in the making.

I’d like to add a few more things to my original comments, and those since. It’s obvious the United States is taking the right stance on this issue and has the support of expatriate Iranian groups, the UN, and other countries. What is missing is the support of neocon members of the Republican Party who feel President Obama should interfere with a political matter in Iran.

Sorry. This is the last thing to do. What happened the last time the US became politically involved in Iran? We don’t need that again.

That said, the US should remain cognizant of the human rights of the Iranian people and keep a keen eye on the blatant disregard of the fraudulent government over there for said human rights.

Remember again my comment in my original post:

The intelligencia of Iran, along with the educators and entrepeneurs and the university students of the country, will not let this sham go unnoticed.Why is this happening? Think back twenty-nine years ago to the year 1980 to the climate in the former USSR and twenty-three years or so to the year 1986 in Vietnam. Commercialization and the market economies of the Soviet Union and Vietnam did what the French, Americans, and other countries couldn’t do. Bring down communism.

This, my friends, is what is going on now in Iran. The people of Iran are no different than you or I. The people of Iran want change and change will happen. Unfortunately, I suspect there will be bloodshed; but I’m confident the people with overcome.

Prior to making that statement, I pointed out that the people of the Soviet Union and the people of Vietnam also managed to do what no other government was able to do…reform their own government.

Yesterday, I found the most incredulous statement through google…apparently by someone who must be a big fan of Matt Drudge and Glenn Beck. In fact I wouldn’t be surprised if the following words were taken from one of their websites:

This may or may not be the modern day Tiananmen square.

Without the assistance of outside power, the people of Iran will not be able to stop the government.

I’ve seen comparisons to Tiananmen Square  all over by right wing hacks. But didn’t the repression at Tiananmen Square actually produce change in China? Aren’t the people of China living a better life in a more market-based economy? Much like the people of the Soviet Union and Vietnam before them?

Above all, didn’t that change come from not outside the countries, but from within? From the people?


May I point out three words to those who stupidly think the people of Iran cannot accomplish change in their government?

The American Revolution


6 responses »

  1. I’ve noticed that one of the big differences between liberals and conservatives (or dems and pubs if you prefer) is that liberals seem to lack historical prespective. In the case of Tiananmen Square, though, that is fairly recent history. This happened in your lifetime, since you’ve been an adult, so either you were not paying attention at the time or you are just wacked. China is not a democracy now, and it wasn’t then, and did not in any way become more democratic as a result of Tiananmen Square. China is more open and free economically, and that is important, but that’s only half the story and that’s what lead to the thirst for democracy in the first place. It’s still a communist dictatorship and is no more represenative now then it was pre Tiananmen.

    I’m not arguing that we should ship weapons or supplies to the rioters in Iran, but I do think it’s not asking too much for the President, who thinks he is the moral restorer of America’s place in the world, to take a moral position in support of our values.

  2. Astounding.

    “But didn’t the repression at Tiananmen Square actually produce change in China?”

    Uh no. The Chinese got a crackdown and more repression. Tiananamen Square happened because the government and economy were changing, and people thought that a representative government was the next natural step. Those protestors were jailed or killed and that pretty much ended the open democracy movement in China. If you’re brutal enough, repression works. It did in China.

    What happens in Iran depends on how hard ball the Iranian mullahs want to play.

    • “Those protestors were jailed or killed and that pretty much ended the open democracy movement in China.”

      Really? Tell that to the Chinese of today investing in the American Stock Market, driving vehicles engineered by American car companies (did you know the biggest selling car in China is Buick?), and enjoying the highest quality of living they ever had. Are they better off now than then? Yes. Is more needed? Yes.

      The problem with you pubs is you look at everything in black and white, yes or no, right or wrong, and consistently nit-pick at the minutae of each event, phrase, action, or policy to the extent where it leaves you clueless regarding the big picture. You look for immediate gratification and fail to look at the overall effects of something.

      I’ll bring up these two words to prove this point but we’ll let ekg further the discussion:


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