LOST: Have You See the Light?


Recently, someone I know has been quite vocal in his criticism of the LOST finale. He’s certainly not alone…there is a number of people out there who feel “cheated” by the finale. Here’s one of his comments:

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They didn’t know shit. They were making it up as they went along. 

I get that though. They dug themselves a hole many times over.  I’m just astounded at the level of acceptance of that among a good portion of the fans.  Some seem perfectly happy to not know the answers.

This same person recently cited an article in Sci Fi Wire as proof that J. J. Abrams, Damon

Lindelof and Carlton Cuse had no idea where they were going with LOST – that changes were made to the plot and story as seasons progressed.

Of course they did! That doesn’t change the concept of the show; nor does it alter the original story presented. Many factors have altered the course of the story over the years, among them the popularity of the Benjamin Linus character and Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje’s desire to leave the show (and subsequent refusal to appear in the finale).

Knowing this is someone who views all things in black and white, I’m not surprised by his cynicism regarding the LOST finale. He is, after all, one of those people who only thinks in absolutes. What does surprise me though is that someone who purports to be intelligent can honestly think that one guy can come up with an idea for a series and map it out word for word for six seasons. Of course not!

Over three years ago, in January 2007, prior to the relaunch of the strike-interrupted Season 3, Damon Lindelof spoke of the future – and past – of LOST:

This show is about people who are metaphorically lost in their lives, who get on an airplane, and crash on an island, and become physically lost on the planet Earth. And once they are able to metaphorically find themselves in their lives again, they will be able to physically find themselves in the world again. When you look at the entire show, that’s what it will look like. That’s what it’s always been about.

LOST never was intended to be about smoke monsters, hatches, whispers, or a myriad of other story-telling plots used by Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse in telling the story created by J. J. Abrams.

LOST was a complex character study emphasizing the fact that life is not all black and white, cut and dried, all-or-nothing philosophy. No other television show could pull off what the writers and producers of LOST accomplished: To tell a tale of love, life, death, and redemption while allowing it’s core of loyal fans the opportunity to fill in the blanks. 

Has any other show in the history of television enabled it’s listeners the ability to discuss it at such great length and with such great passion that they have the werewithal to come up with their own answers to some of these questions? That, for years to come, they will still be answering those questions and discussing them? I think not.

The fact is, there was a master plan to LOST. Unfortunately, some just haven’t “seen the light”. Perhaps someday we’ll meet them at The Crossroads.

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  2. I honestly don’t see the political angle of this that you do, unless it’s that good intentions count far more than promised results. There is your dem spin on the Lost finale for you.

    But as for the quote that you seem to think that solves everything, “……..This show is about people who are metaphorically lost in their lives, who get on an airplane, and crash on an island, and become physically lost on the planet Earth. And once they are able to metaphorically find themselves in their lives again, they will be able to physically find themselves in the world again. When you look at the entire show, that’s what it will look like. That’s what it’s always been about……….”

    You got none of that in the finale. Who did Kate end up with? Not Jack, since we know he died, but not Sawyer either. He reunited with Juliet post mortem. None of the survivors who flew off of the island at the last second had any closure (other than after death). A proper finale would have dealt with that plane, missing for weeks, flying into LAX, or Somoa or wherever. And give a hint as to the survivor’s future. That would have been a finale!

    But not only no answers, buy no closure for the characters either. They are still as “lost” as they were the day they crashed.

    I’m glad you are satisfied with the ending. But don’t try to blow smoke (black smoke) and act like the finale was the result of a careful plan years in the making. It was the product of a cram session with the intent of covering up that there never was a plan.

    And on that level, it was highly successful.

    • werd, lil mike… and while I don’t doubt that there was definitely some sort of underlying plan to it the show, videos like the one below demonstrate pretty well that they opened a lot of loose ends they either didn’t have an answer to or never planned to answer in the first place.

      • Nice try, “Brain”. Here’s a quote from the guy who posted that video:

        ” Honestly this was the perfect ending cause we will be able to theorize for decades to come but more importantly our characters got closure and thats what LOST was truly about it was about the characters finally finding redemption and in the end, even if it was in the ALT/purgatory worldthey finally found it. …”

      • alright, one last time because your head is so far up your own ass you seem to completely miss the point being conveyed–

        1) it doesn’t matter what the producers have to say– it’s about THE CONCLUSION THAT THE EVIDENCE, LEFT IN THE WAKE OF THE SHOW, LEADS US TO…

        2) the purpose of posting that video was NOT to make an argument based on the authority of the video-maker…

        3) it was to illustrate that given the CLUSTERFUCK of false and genuine mysteries in LOST that…

        …the producers DID NOT and DO NOT have all the answers. there were abandoned plot lines and poorly executed twists. dead end leaps of plot. complete contradictions in some instances. at times they may have had answers but a huge portion of the show was unplanned and handed to us by the seat of their pants.

        so once again, and in conclusion, a LARGE ELEMENT of the MYSTERIES in the show could not have been truly thought through in advance as was so often stated by the production staff. this is merely accepting the quality of evidence that has been laid out in front of us. darlton would skew truth when it is in the best interest of keeping the secrets of the show… well, secret. so to once again REITERATE– it’s all about the conclusion to which the evidence points.

  3. what you keep calling cynicism is actually SKEPTICISM and it’s a healthy part of any intelligent person’s intellectual arsenal. to clarify, it’s not just that they didn’t answer the mythological questions in the final season– that i can understand and even applaud them for.

    BUT! they REFUSE to discuss any of this– the producers go into radio silence and won’t answer any lingering questions. not every fan watched the show because they ONLY cared about what happened to the characters (and that’s not to say they didn’t either). i’d say at least half, if not more, watched because they were compelled to by the mythology that was built up around the characters. just because i don’t accept a gift-wrapped turd from the producers doesn’t mean i’m not a fan or i don’t “get it”

    the show is over. what harm would it do to reward those viewers who are still thirsty for the answers THEY PROMISED US ALL SEASON LONG? it was a sham and we’ve been had. THAT is why people are claiming the producers are frauds and THAT is why I don’t believe they knew what the fuck they were doing.

      • Correct, Allan. We’ve never been promised answers to all the questions.

        And, yes, Brain, it’s cynicism:

        *(cyn·i·cism (sn-szm)
        n.
        1. An attitude of scornful or jaded negativity, especially a general distrust of the integrity or professed motives of others)

      • the ENTIRE sixth season was promoted as the season with ANSWERS. almost every single promo that aired had the word “answers” in it somewhere. slowly but surely as the season progressed they did less and less promotion with that word in it. which just goes to show how haphazardly put together this last season was. like lil mike pointed out, all we need to do is look at the sunken island at the beginning of the season to see that this is NOT entirely what they had in mind when it started.

        and no, it’s not cynicism when there is EVIDENCE points to the contrary.

      • Once again, Brain…You got the answers the producers were going to give you. You just don’t get it, do you?

        Another quote:

        “This is what an episode of “Lost” that is about answering questions looks like. This thing is a big mythological download. Our belief is that the real resolution of the show and the one that matters is what happens to these characters. We’ve felt a desire to provide the audience with Jacob and the Man in Black’s origin story and make it not the last episode of the show for a very good reason. The show is going to focus on these characters. That’s what we believe is more important and that’s what we believe the audience wants to see. This all worked the way we wanted to. We planned it out so we could do a big mythological download episode at this point so that it would allow us to have the end of the show be more character-centric. That’s the way we chose to tell our story.”

      • also, i never once said i wanted ALL the answers. i’d just like some sort of discourse that demonstrates the producers weren’t lying when they said “we have a plan” because that sure as hell isn’t evident by just watching the show.

      • Brain…You have a quote from over three years ago that pretty much explains the entire program and the finale…

        “……..This show is about people who are metaphorically lost in their lives, who get on an airplane, and crash on an island, and become physically lost on the planet Earth. And once they are able to metaphorically find themselves in their lives again, they will be able to physically find themselves in the world again. When you look at the entire show, that’s what it will look like. That’s what it’s always been about………..”

      • so an episode of Lost that answers questions is one that equivocates and just raises more questions. very well put.

        “the answers the producers were gonna give me”. what a load of crap.

        that 3 year old quote is so vague it could have applied to pretty much ANY ending they came up with. it’s the same type of backward thinking that people people use justify Nostradamus’ bullshit. quit trying to find evidence that supports your preconceived ideas and actually look at where the evidence points.

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  5. “……..This show is about people who are metaphorically lost in their lives, who get on an airplane, and crash on an island, and become physically lost on the planet Earth. And once they are able to metaphorically find themselves in their lives again, they will be able to physically find themselves in the world again. When you look at the entire show, that’s what it will look like. That’s what it’s always been about………..”

    huh, sounds like the final episode.. 😉

  6. Gee I wonder who you could be referring to?

    Ha!

    You needn’t overstate my disappointment with the finale. In my blog on it, I did say I was mostly satisfied with the finale.

    http://muchedumbre.com/the-end-and-i%e2%80%99m-still-lost

    The emotional hugs at the end provided needed closure. Even though we never knew how Hurley and Ben ran the island, or how the people who escaped lived their lives, because in the last few minutes, they’re all dead. That’s almost as good an ending if Jack had rolled out of bed and realized it was all a dream.

    But, the writers basically gave up trying to answer any questions at that point. They flung up their hands and just said, “Ow it’s too hard” and gave you hugs from the 6th Sense rather than answers. I get you are satisfied with that. You, like the John Candy character you are based on in Volunteers, are a follower and would have been happy with any ending they provided you. Honestly I can’t think of a possible ending finale in which you would have been angry and flung your apple-tini into the floor with disgust, “What a rip off!”

    But the bulk of speculation and discussion of this show was not of the “character study” but the mysteries of the island. Those mysteries were given short shrift. Even the alternate universe, I’m willing to bet, was not meant to be the afterlife when they wrote and filmed the first episode of the season. Otherwise they wouldn’t have had an underwater shot of the island and the statue. A universe put together by the subconscious of the dead, in which no one went underwater to see that, would not have had that. It only makes sense if the alternate universe is really an alternate universe created by altering the timeline when destroying the island.

    So they changed it at the last minute.

    As for your supposition that, “Has any other show in the history of television enabled it’s listeners the ability to discuss it at such great length and with such great passion that they have the werewithal to come up with their own answers to some of these questions? That, for years to come, they will still be answering those questions and discussing them? I think not.”

    Coming up with your own answers means… there were no answers. I can come up with my own answers to all the Lost questions, but they wouldn’t be the real answers, and now, there never will be any. So I doubt people will be discussing this show for years to come. They will realize they were had, and move on.

    Are people still sitting around trying to figure out the Sopranos ending? Nope they moved on, because the guessing is only fun when there are actual real answers somewhere. There are no answers to the questions of Lost so the mystery that kept people guessing and coming back every week are not really mysteries at all. They were bait. And they worked.

    I’m just hoping that they don’t all turn out to be dead on Fringe.

    • Oh, Mike, you are quite the cynic, aren’t you? Of course, Kelly and I already knew that…

      What’s funny is that in the same interview I’m quoting within this blog was attended by eight other journalists, including the one quoted by Sam on the Muche. The first paragraph in that interview said:

      “Following the session, Lindelof and Cuse sat with me to further discuss their thoughts about the season to date and their future plans for the show. Here’s an edited transcript of that conversation, which proves that they did, indeed, have an endgame in mind many years ago.”

      Of course, you guys overlooked that.

      In the same interview, Damon Lindelof made a comment (which he repeated last week following the Finale) that correlates the analysis of your reaction to the Finale compared to mine (and other intelligent people):

      A really interesting issue is one that creates Democrats and Republicans around it. A really boring issue is one where everyone is unified and the answer is clear. The audience would never be surprised by our show if it were completely obvious as to how to proceed. They would just watch it every week and go, “That was pretty much what I was expecting.” ”

      Therein lies the problem with your displeasure. As a Republican, you want answers to everything and are dissatisfied if you (think) you don’t get what you expected! You want cut and dried, black and white. You don’t want any gray areas left to interpretation or discussion, because that doesn’t satisfy your lack of imagination.

      The comparison could also be made with your extremist anti-Muslim agenda. In your narrow mind, all Muslims are Jihadists bent on destroying America. Those of us who know better know that there are good Muslims as well as bad Muslims; just like there’s good Christians as well as bad Christians.

      We see the light in all people, you see the dark. In our minds, we have used the information given during six seasons to “have the real answers” to most of the mysteries of the Island. Do we have them all? No. Will we have them all? No. Were we promised them all? No. At no time during the six years of LOST were we promised answers to all the questions.

      But, enough with the politics! You want answers? Here’s a couple:

      a. The island was under water in the Alt because the collective mindset of the Losties, their wish if you will, was that it was deep on the bottom of the ocean.

      b. In the upcoming DVD release of Season Six, we will be treated to a 12-14 minute look into Hurley and Ben’s life on the Island after their separation from Jack.

      c. Peter is dead.

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