You Just Don’t Realize It Yet…

It’s becoming more and more obvious that my prediction the other day foresaw the future of DADT, that archaic and bigoted law that has made second-class citizens of our honored men and women in the military for no other reason that they happen to be gay.

When I was in the Air Force, my job was to process administrative separations at Ellsworth AFB in South Dakota and at Eglin AFB here in Florida, including those of gays. Although I occasionally felt a ping of remorse and hypocrisy (why is a gay kicking out gays?) I was comforted by the fact that (as far as I recall) 100% of these discharges were, a. Straights who couldn’t really handle the pressure of military life and just wanted out; or b. Gays who were the victim of the homophobia and hate within the workplace.

Fortunately, I merely processed the paperwork, preparing the documentation, forwarding it to the Judge Advocate’s office for his or her review, then to my Chief Personnel Officer (Surprise: He was gay too!), then on to the Unit Commander (none of these cases were “serious” enough to be sent to the Wing Commander for signature) who signed the package. All in all, it was an expeditious manner to accomplish the service member’s goal: A quick discharge with an Honorable Certificate of Service.

Oh. Back to my prediction. I said:

“Why Would any “next guy in office” take the chance of reducing the size of the military by 10% by kicking out all the open gays in the military following such a pronouncement?”

It’s becoming obvious, day to day as the death knell tolls for the end of DADT, that the simplest way for it to die is happening…

Let DADT die on the vine. Tie up a half-hearted appeal in the courts. Make it so hard to process these discharges that it just isn’t worth the effort, time, or leaving the decision in the hands of five people with a lot more pressing things out there to worry about…like Afghanistan and Iraq:

At present, discharges will now require approval of the service secretary, who would consult with Defense undersecretary Clifford Stanley and the general counsel Jeh Johnson, putting the entire separation process in the hands of political appointees.

DADT is dead. You just don’t realize it yet.


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  1. “Make it so hard to process these discharges that it just isn’t worth the effort, time, or leaving the decision in the hands of five people with a lot more pressing things out there to worry”

    I said roughly the same thing back in march
    The quiet defeat of Don’t ask,Don’t tell…

    It wasn’t a total victory, but it was close enough for that time.

    I’ve seen people question why,if Obama is anti-DADT, is he appealing the judges ruling. Darth, from Muche posted a great article that explained why. As it’s a law, he doesn’t have a choice but to defend it(besides, imagine the tears from McCain et al if Obama didn’t defend it “OH woe is us, he doesn’t even defend our laws–impeach him) . Does that mean he won’t call for it’s end when congress resumes? I don’t think so.

    I think we can all agree that this law is just stupid. The questions being asked now “Do we let them shower together with straight?” “Do we let them sleep in the same rooms as straight?” have me laughing because they so remind me of a part from A Few Good Men

    Lt. Kendrick: Lance Corporal Dawson disobeyed an order!
    Kaffee: Yeah, but it wasn’t a real order, was it? I mean it’s peace time. He wasn’t being asked to secure a hill or advance on a beach head. Surely a Marine of Dawson’s intelligence can be trusted to determine, on his own, which are the really important orders and which orders might, say, be morally questionable? Lieutenant Kendrick? Can he? Can Dawson determine on his own which orders he’s going to follow?
    Lt. Kendrick: No, he cannot.
    Kaffee: A lesson he learned after the Curtis Bell incident, am I right?
    Lt. Kendrick: I would think so.
    Kaffee: You know so don’t you, Lieutenant.
    Capt. Ross: Object!
    Judge Randolph: Sustained.
    Kaffee: Lieutenant Kendrick, one final question. If you had ordered Dawson to give Santiago a code red…
    Lt. Kendrick: [Interrupting, exasperated] I SPECIFICALLY ORDERED THOSE MEN NOT TO TOUCH SANTIAGO!
    Kaffee: …would it be reasonable to think he would have disobeyed you again?
    Capt. Ross: Lieutenant, don’t answer that!
    Kaffee: You don’t have to, I’m through.
    Capt. Ross: Lieutenant Kendrick, did you order Lance Corporal Dawson and Private Downey to give Willie Santiago a code red?
    [Kendrick initially refuses to answer, sensing he’s been caught lying]
    Capt. Ross: Lieutenant Kendrick! Did you…
    Lt. Kendrick: No, I did not!

    it was a great part because we learned that you don’t disobey orders, especially in wartime.. so if they don’t disobey orders then why did Kiefer and Nicholson fear for the safety of one of their men? Why couldn’t they just order the other soldiers to leave the guy alone?

    and that’s what I want to know. Why can’t they just order everyone to stop acting stupid and get over themselves. Gays have being showering with and sleeping next to straights this whole time.. so what changes? What? It’s ok to think they gay, but knowing it.. well that’s where we draw the line.


    Where does this change say that gays will start to flaunt it? Where does this change say gays will start making out with each other before bed every night? where does this change say you’ll know who is gay and who isn’t anymore than you know now?

    it doesn’t. That’s all just hetero-fear. They think that since they would do it, well gays would do it too.. you see gays can’t control themselves.. *wink*.. Except gays have been living underground pretty good up til now so that argument is out. But the same people will say “well yeah, but now that they don’t have to hide, they won’t be able to contain themselves” Bullshit.quit being so stupid!

    Men,women,gay,straight.. none of them are allowed to just drop trou and start making out and they abide by that… it’d be no different when gays are no longer booted for being gay. I don’t care how ‘flaming’ a ‘mo is.. he/she isn’t going to get through boot-camp still ‘flaming’.. they’ll learn to live the military just like a ‘cool, anti-authority’ hetero would. they will be assimilated just like every single ‘punk’ who has walked through those doors has been assimilated.. and they will respect orders. will there be a few here and there that get through and do some kind of damage. Yep. But we don’t get rid all hetero’s because there are rapists among their sexuality..

    the only thing ‘changing’ here is if you’re gay you won’t be booted out. end of story, no questions asked, no worries about showers and sleeping. There is no law stating that gay must out themselves, and live the “Birdcage’ lifestyle.. it’s just saying you won’t be thrown out because of who you love. Nothing more, nothing less.. But leave it to the hetero’s to make it more difficult than it needs to be because their God tells them it’s wrong or they just ‘know it’ in their heart gay is wrong.. *rollseyes* Just grow the fuck up already!

    • lol…I always knew Darth had a soft spot for teh gheys!

      I can see it now:

      Army Secretary: “What do you mean, stop the war so I can approve this discharge?”

      “To hell with that! Give the guy a gun and put him back to work!”

      The best part of this decision is that it takes the power out of the hands of the military, allowing civilians the decision authority.

      That, my friends, is Mission Accomplished!

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